Curly questions about getting married

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by Jennifer Cram - Brisbane Marriage Celebrant © (12/01/2024)
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                      Jennifer Cram, Inclusive Marriage Celebrant
                      against a backdrop of hand-drawn question marks
                      and the words Curly QuestionsI regularly receive questions from random people (not clients) asking curly questions about the legal side of marriage.

I don't mind a bit! Partly because the back story is usually complex and often wildly interesting So I always answer the question fully  in order to steer the enquirer in the right direction to find an official answer, while making it quite clear that my answers are from the perspective of an experienced celebrant and should not be regarded to be legal advice. And I make a mental note to raise the issue with the couples I marry if it is relevant.

Here's a taster of some of the more frequent curly questions.

My marriage certificate says I'm not married????

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This is a question that occasionally comes up when someone is planning on getting divorced and has had a good look at their marriage certificate for the first time.

Worried caller:
My marriage certificate says I'm Never Validly Married
Me:
Nothing to worry about. The fact that you have an official certificate from Births, Deaths, and Marriages, means that you ARE married and your marriage has been registered. What Never Validly Marriage means is that you were never previously married so you're on your first marriage.

I'm trying to confirm if [ x ]'s marriage was legal

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This was a curly question in the extreme because
  • it involved a marriage that had taken place decades ago
  • the enquirer was not a party to the marriage
  • the question was prompted by anecdotal evidence about the records held by the church where the marriage was solemnised

So some exploration of the facts was needed. It turned out that

  • The enquirer had interpreted the fact that the divorce was not noted on the marriage register to mean that the marriage was not solemnised because the Marriage Act says that a marriage cannot take place without documentary proof of how a previous marriaged ended being shown to the celebrant.  However, a record of a marriage in a marriage register, signed by the clergyperson or celebrant, the parties, and two witnesses, is proof that the marriage was solemnised, as is the Form 15 marriage certificate given to the parties on the day. Neither is proof that the marriage has been registered. That's what the official certificate proves. Solemnisation means that a ceremony was conducted in the required form.
  • Privacy considerations mean that no-one, other the the parties to the marriage, can obtain a copy of the marriage certificate from Births, Deaths, and Marriages, until 75 years after the wedding, so the enquirer was not able to obtain a copy of the marriage certificate. (The exception is if both parties are deceased and the applicant is either a child of the marriage or a solicitor involved in probating the will of one or both parties.)
I was able to advise the enquirer that
  • There is actually very little that might render a marriage void - regardless of any mistakes or omissions on the paperwork. so the fact that (anecdotally) the marriage record did not include the information that one party had been previously married but was divorced would not affect the legality of the marriageis actually very little that might render a marriage void - regardless of any mistakes or omissions on the paperwork. so the fact that (anecdotally) the marriage record did not include the information that one party had been previously married but was divorced would not affect the legality of the marriage
  • While not telling the whole truth on the marriage papers won't automatically render the marriage null and void, it is a legal offence that could land the parties in prison or render them liable to a substantial fine.
  • That a record of the marriage held in the church's register is evidence that the marriage was solemnised and a request to the church archives to view the register might settle the matter
  • That, based on the information shared with me, it would appear that the marriage was valid, something that is confirmed when Births, Deaths, and Marriages registers the marriage.
  • That, in the unlikely event that the church had not forwarded the marriage details to Births, Deaths, and Marriages the information in the church register would be enough to start the process of having the marriage registered

How can I stop a marriage going ahead?

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Enquirer was concerned that the motives of one of the parties to the planned marriage were suspicious. Another enquiry that took a while to unpack. But in the end, the answer was simple.

Unless there are extreme grounds - such as one of the parties not being capable of giving real consent and being under guardianship - there is no process for intervening. And even then it is not a straightforward process. It certainly isn't as simple as the movies make out. In Australian civil ceremonies, the objection question isn't asked, and the person authorised to solemnise the marriage is the one who must satisfy themselves that the parties are giving real consent.

Thanks for reading! And keep the questions coming.

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